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Type 2 Diabetes, support group.

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loopyloo Thu 14-Mar-24 10:56:58

Hi everyone, anyone like to join me for a cup of coffee and a bit of support with their type 2.
I find its a long hard struggle.
Not helped by DH with a sweet tooth and I eat for comfort.
Am I alone in thinking its a bit of a class thing now? Linked with being overweight?
Currently I've a libre 2 for a fortnight and it's illuminating how soon it's up to 10 or 12.
I'm drinking coffee with a tiny bit of cream.

Sago Thu 14-Mar-24 11:25:33

I am a size 12/14 and was diagnosed with type 2 three years ago.
It is hereditary.
I find the best things to keep my sugar low are 16/8, walking, limiting carbs and only having a pudding/sweets once a week.
Sourdough bread is your friend and even better if previously frozen,loads of vegetables and eggs as protein.

loopyloo Thu 14-Mar-24 11:55:39

Yes. My DM had it. I knew it was in the pipeline.
Diagnosed a bought 6 years.
Can I say if anyone is on metformin doask for the slow release as its much easier on the stomach.

Kate1949 Thu 14-Mar-24 11:58:18

My husband has type 2 and has never been overweight. He had to come off Metformin as it was making him ill.

Severnsider Thu 14-Mar-24 14:16:27

I found a book called 'Say No to Diabetes' by Patrick Holford, very useful.

One thing he suggests is porridge for breakfast sprinkled with cinnamon. When I have this my blood sugar results are always low. worth trying.

Fernbergien Thu 14-Mar-24 14:39:48

A few days ago found out my reading was 40 with the highest “allowable “ reading being 41. I am a fairly small eater 8 stone and size 8 so it was a bit of a surprise. Any advice would be very welcome. Not aware of any diabetics in my side of family. Husband is ok but runs in his family and son now has been diagnosed recently.

Primrose53 Thu 14-Mar-24 17:17:24

My friend retired last year after working as a Diabetes Nurse Specialist. We were discussing why so many people are now Type 2 Diabetic and from memory she said a lot of it is consuming too many carbs. People say they don’t eat many carbs but when she asks them what they have for breakfast they say 2 slices of toast. Lunch is another 2 or 3 slices of bread as a sandwich and when she asks about tea, it’s often “Pizza”.

loopyloo Thu 14-Mar-24 17:30:41

Another factor us that now we have the hbaic long term test it's picking people up.
Another factor might be that we are exposed to more blue light.

JamesandJon33 Thu 14-Mar-24 17:31:42

Diagnosed T2 seven years ago. Went immediately on a low carb diet. No medication and not in the diabetic range again. Hope to keep it that way.

growstuff Thu 14-Mar-24 17:37:27

loopyloo

Hi everyone, anyone like to join me for a cup of coffee and a bit of support with their type 2.
I find its a long hard struggle.
Not helped by DH with a sweet tooth and I eat for comfort.
Am I alone in thinking its a bit of a class thing now? Linked with being overweight?
Currently I've a libre 2 for a fortnight and it's illuminating how soon it's up to 10 or 12.
I'm drinking coffee with a tiny bit of cream.

If you like cream in your coffee, be generous with it. Cream doesn't contain many carbs, which is what affects your blood glucose. Maybe exchange that for your comfort eating.

growstuff Thu 14-Mar-24 17:40:29

Severnsider

I found a book called 'Say No to Diabetes' by Patrick Holford, very useful.

One thing he suggests is porridge for breakfast sprinkled with cinnamon. When I have this my blood sugar results are always low. worth trying.

Sorry, but I fund Patrick Holford a maverick, who makes all kinds of claims to sell books and flog his supplements.

I was diagnosed with T2 diabetes 35 years ago, despite not being overweight. I've never been able to go into remission, but I've managed it well. Porridge is one of the worst things I can eat.

growstuff Thu 14-Mar-24 17:43:32

Primrose53

My friend retired last year after working as a Diabetes Nurse Specialist. We were discussing why so many people are now Type 2 Diabetic and from memory she said a lot of it is consuming too many carbs. People say they don’t eat many carbs but when she asks them what they have for breakfast they say 2 slices of toast. Lunch is another 2 or 3 slices of bread as a sandwich and when she asks about tea, it’s often “Pizza”.

I think your friend is right. I'm always amazed at the people on GN who state they eat "no sugar" (impossible) and have no idea about nutritional values, especially carbs.

growstuff Thu 14-Mar-24 17:44:28

loopyloo

Another factor us that now we have the hbaic long term test it's picking people up.
Another factor might be that we are exposed to more blue light.

How does blue light make people susceptible to diabetes?

loopyloo Thu 14-Mar-24 17:46:56

Agree, think Dr Mosleys books , 8 weeks blood sugar diet etc are better.
And my CGM says porridge sends reading up. So scrambled eggs are better with mushrooms or other veg.

JamesandJon33 Thu 14-Mar-24 18:16:12

I would ask that question too loopyloo how does blue light cause diabetes?

dogsmother Thu 14-Mar-24 18:29:03

I was prediabetic and fiercely quit sugar and went low carb. It worked and as a bonus I lost weight although I wouldn’t have considered myself overweight.
I had been warned years earlier by my gp that it would probably be on the horizon due to other conditions so I still try to err on the si de of caution and am tested regularly.

Primrose53 Thu 14-Mar-24 19:13:44

growstuff

Primrose53

My friend retired last year after working as a Diabetes Nurse Specialist. We were discussing why so many people are now Type 2 Diabetic and from memory she said a lot of it is consuming too many carbs. People say they don’t eat many carbs but when she asks them what they have for breakfast they say 2 slices of toast. Lunch is another 2 or 3 slices of bread as a sandwich and when she asks about tea, it’s often “Pizza”.

I think your friend is right. I'm always amazed at the people on GN who state they eat "no sugar" (impossible) and have no idea about nutritional values, especially carbs.

She should be right. 😉 she lectures Doctors and other medical staff and spent her entire working life in this field. I am pleased my memory of our conversation was correct.

PaperMonster Thu 14-Mar-24 21:20:05

I’ve been T2D for about five years and when diagnosed I immediately went low carb, which helped for a while. But now I have one Metformin daily as well. I also have the glucoraphanin soup once a week, which has helped bring my HBA1C down.

PaperMonster Thu 14-Mar-24 21:26:11

Also, with the Metformin I never had any trouble with it until the pharmacy gave me a different brand and I became very constipated, so i didn’t renew my prescription for about three months until I had my review. Then I was prescribed the slow release and I’ve had the runs ever since!!

Floradora9 Thu 14-Mar-24 21:44:32

It makes me mad when I read about people saying it is easy to reverse type 2 . I developed this 24 years ago and and it was down to my genes not anything else. I have really stuck to a very restricted diet for many years but I am now told I can relax this now a bit . I think at my age it is safe to do so but it would be easy to relax too much. I have never had a test result that has been anything but good and really you just get used to cutting out most of the carbs in your diet. I do not feel it is a big thing in my life . I have suffered from worse.

growstuff Thu 14-Mar-24 22:58:13

I'm with you Floradora. I was diagnosed in my mid 30s. Since then I have controlled my diabetes well. I was told it would be progressive and that I would probably have to take insulin by now. My HbA1c hardly changes, but I now perfectly well that I'll never reverse diabetes or go into remission.

And then ignorant people claim it's easy to reverse!! Pah!

growstuff Thu 14-Mar-24 23:01:09

PaperMonster

Also, with the Metformin I never had any trouble with it until the pharmacy gave me a different brand and I became very constipated, so i didn’t renew my prescription for about three months until I had my review. Then I was prescribed the slow release and I’ve had the runs ever since!!

I've taken a high dose of slow release Metformin for over 30 years without any problem.

Something which is rarely mentioned is that long-term use of high dosage metformin can interfere with the absorption of Vitamin B12. The deficiency won't necessarily show up in a plasma blood test, so medics (and especially the patient) should be aware of the symptoms of VitB12 deficiency.

growstuff Thu 14-Mar-24 23:08:20

loopyloo

Agree, think Dr Mosleys books , 8 weeks blood sugar diet etc are better.
And my CGM says porridge sends reading up. So scrambled eggs are better with mushrooms or other veg.

Nope! Sorry1 I don't think much of his books for diabetics either - but they make him loads of money!

It's quite simple really. Recognise which foods contain carbs and in which quantities. Restrict the carbs and eat them evenly across a number of meals, so blood sugar spikes are minimised.

nanna8 Thu 14-Mar-24 23:37:29

Pizzas are no good for me. I went from being diabetic down to pre diabetic which is fairly unusual apparently. Diabetes is in our family and none of us are very overweight though I lost a few kilos because I should . They said to eat heaps of veggies and quite a lot of fruit and avoid too many carbs. I still eat choc because I am addicted to it but,hey, you gotta live ! You absolutely can reverse it but it is hard work!

PaperMonster Fri 15-Mar-24 08:41:21

You have to be careful with the types of fruit and veg you eat though too. And work out which foods spike you by using a glucometer as we’re all individual with different responses - as my experience with Metformin demonstrates!