Sarah Everard on bbc iplayer

it is on bbc1 now

This was heartbreaking to watch, she complied so readily to him, trusting him as a policeman.
The treatment by the police at Sarah's memorial was appalling,

It’s a dreadful indictment of police forces that this sex offender was not prosecuted.
Indecent exposure has not been dismissed as ‘harmless flashing’ for years, it’s a gateway offence
The behaviour of the police at the vigil was horrific

The statistics at the end of the programme were shocking. Hundreds of women have suffered sexual assault, rape and murder since Sarah's death. A chilling thought.

I was sobbing watching the vigil, so I turned off and watched a few funny film clips on YouTube to lift my spirits before going to bed. I despair at the misogny.

From childhood I’ve had a very jaded view of the police through incidents involving my own family.

A difficult but informative watch on the process of arresting him .. yes the stats at end of documentary were monumentally shocking

Horrendous. Didn’t want to watch it, but dh did, so I stayed put.
It’s no consolation, I know, to realise that there are bad apples in every organisation, but to think of the police harbouring such a one is particularly dreadful.

I worked in training and joint investigations with police. Generalising - no major issues.
Sadly, specialist training along with teams were negatively affected by cuts
Having acknowledged this, absolutely no excuse for not investigating indecent exposure

It was harrowing and alarming viewing. The truly astonishing conclusion for me , as a 70 + woman, is that I would no longer offer instant obedience to a police officer. I could not have imagined feeling this way in the past. The police force has a great deal of work to do to regain our trust. And a message for those officers who " looked the other way" - shame on you .

I only saw the second half, deeply upsetting especially hearing the words of her mother. What a wicked man Wayne Couzins, how could he so casually go and pick up a drink from Costa and ring the vet just after he'd murdered Sarah and act as if nothing out of the ordinary had happened,. Defies belief along with all the missed opportunities of nailing him for his continual flashing The culture of misogyny amongst some of the police as exposed in their awful texting was shocking. I think women have to put up with a lot of hassle on the streets these days which goes way beyond the extremely annoying cat calling I remember from my youth, it just seems more dangerous

I just cannot watch it as I have 3 grand daughters in their teens and I dread to think what it will be like for them.

We have always grown up to trust the police and now I don’t trust them one bit. They cannot all be tarred with the same brush but each day something else comes out about another police officer or police force.

I feel so sad as a woman aged 71.

I agree, it feels more dangerous now than in our younger days.
I’d be interested in the use of pornography by Couzins and others like him. Obscene pornography that degrades abd abuses women and children isn’t hidden away and difficult to access. There it is on your smart phone

I commented to DH that the DCI in charge of the case looked so young to be in that role. Good to see how far on we have moved since Jane Tennison in Prime Suspect when it was unusual for a woman to be in a high ranking position.

And it sounded like the DCI’s boss was another woman also.

Cf" ChocolatelovingGran"

"The truly astonishing conclusion for me , as a 70 + woman, is that I would no longer offer instant obedience to a police officer. I could not have imagined feeling this way in the past"

AGREED; Unbelievable and sad. Isn't it? I was brought up to respect the Police who I perceived as doing a difficult and dangerous job, sometimes with little or no thanks, to protect us all.......

I really struggle with this as I work with many Police officers on a daily basis and quite honestly have found the majority to be kind, compassionate people who are trying to do an extremely difficult job in equally difficult circumstances.

Two weeks ago, I sat with one who was so distressed at the sentence passed on an individual after a huge amount of work had gone into the case and the distress wasn't for themselves, it was for the victim and their family.

However - then I think, are they allowing the behaviour of others to carry on unchecked?, are they laughing at the jokes, looking at the grubby messages etc?

couldn't watch this as it's too fresh in mind..

so very sorry for sarah and her family.

Hard to say what I found most chilling about the programme.

Possibly the WhatsApp group where Couzens and his police mates swapped vile messages about women.

Or maybe the fact that in 2015 while serving as an armed officer with the Civil Nuclear Constabulary he was suspected of commiting indecent exposure. Kent Police receive a report of a man driving around Dover naked from the waist down. A witness gave an accurate description and the vehicle registration. He was caught on ANPR cameras. He was never even questioned. Why?

Lady Elish Angiolini: There was a woeful absence of proactive investigation and the matter was hastily dropped.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/03/indecent-exposure-flashing-sarah-everard-wayne-couzens

The programme reminded me again of the murdered sisters, Biba Henry and Nicole Smallman, and the reprehensible behaviour of the police in their case.

Delila

The programme reminded me again of the murdered sisters, Biba Henry and Nicole Smallman, and the reprehensible behaviour of the police in their case.

The systematic racism and police indifference on that case is unforgivable.. their poor mother has so little support or help

Dee1012, I share the conflicted feeling you express. My work over 40 years involved frequent joint work with police .
Add to this, my dad was in the police, retired after 33 years as a senior cid officer. He was a lovely man, good dad and family person. He’d no more have allowed this kind of misogyny than I would.

Is it a reflection of our increasingly polarised society, where dangerous men like Andrew Tate influence some people>. Cousins seems a stone cold psychopath. It’s beyond belief that his sexual offending/including indecent exposure wasn’t investigated and prosecuted. I have daughters. I find myself wondering how Sarah’s mum manages

Witzend

Horrendous. Didn’t want to watch it, but dh did, so I stayed put.
It’s no consolation, I know, to realise that there are bad apples in every organisation, but to think of the police harbouring such a one is particularly dreadful.

But he wasn't one bad apple. Every single week without fail there is another report of a police officer being suspended/sacked/investigated for not only illegal but utterly vile practices. Filming dead victims, sharing extreme porn with colleagues as well as misogynistic, homophobic and racist views that would've looked out of place in the 1970's. The whole barrel is rotten.

flappergirl, I don’t believe every officer is rotten, There’s clearly a huge problem with culture, with disgusting behaviour being unchallenged

And of course disgusting behaviour existing