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Franbern Tue 22-Nov-22 09:27:13

I am in slight shock. I do work my money out with care. Following the Mr Micawber policy.......

Living in a flat where I pay a maintenance charge, I had got into the habit, since I have been here, of NOT allocating money for general repairs. Must do so in future.

The Loo in my en-suite has had a very small trickle for some time now - tried the idea of ignoring it - but it did not go away and was starting to get slightly worse, so called in a plumber. Not as an emergency, just a normal job,.

He came yesterday, was here for nearly two hours, did the job having taken the cistern apart i n order to put in new part to replace the broken part. I had to pay a call-out charge tot he company when I arranged this, assuming that would be taken off the final bill - but it was not. Did get myj 5% pensioners discount.

However, it has cost me over two hundred quid for that repair. Looking back to when I had a similar one carried out at the house some twelve years ago, for over a hundred pounds, suppose this is correct price - but still a shock to myj (financial) system.

It was all very proper and I was given the cost, before telling the plumber tio proceed with the job, and all appropriate paper work afterwards.

Must say, I had forgotten how very expensive these sort of jobs around out homes can be these days. Think I will need to start to make a monthly allocation for such repairs in the future.

crazyH Thu 24-Nov-22 11:49:55

Wait for this - £72 for changing a washer on my shower head - it took him literally 5 minutes 😡

jenpax Thu 24-Nov-22 12:05:50

People need to remember that trades people charge for the skill they need to identify and carry out work as much as the time it takes.
I agree that prices are eye watering though, and the leaky lavatory has made me think! There is a trickle leak behind the lavatory in my grandsons bathroom which I have not really paid much heed to, however the water meter comment made me reconsider!

annsixty Thu 24-Nov-22 12:29:03

Just checking back while I finish my coffee.
Been on the phone to a friend who has just had her chimney swept.
Her previous sweep charged £35 but has retired so she booked another one who came this week, £90, I don’t have a chimney but this does seem a lot.

karmalady Thu 24-Nov-22 12:39:58

Seabreeze

Karmalady. Are you sure about 4.5% at Halifax. I’ve just looked and 2% was the highest I could see. There are a couple at .45%
I got quite excited thinking I might be able to make a bit of money this year.

www.halifax.co.uk/savings/fixed-term/regular-saver.html

They all hide the best rates

jocork Thu 24-Nov-22 12:43:19

Thankfully I have an insurance with my British Gas account fo electrical, plumbing etc. I pay a £60 fee if I claim and everything is then covered. I claimed for electrics last year and though I had to wait a while as covid was affecting staffing and I needed 2 people in order to move furniture it would have cost a fortune otherwise. This year I had to claim for a plumber. Normally you pay the £60 when booking but when I asked they said there wasn't a request for payment on their screen so not to worry. I thought they would bill me later but nothing came so I got it for free! I also claimed for a central heating leak a while ago. All in all it has been well worth having the cover as I live in an old property and it's a small monthly charge on my monthly bill so I don't really notice it.

annsixty Thu 24-Nov-22 12:48:07

Lloyds have a similar account if you already have a club account with them.
It pays 5.25% on a regular saver account .
You can put in up to £400 a month for 12 months at the end of which you get the total sum paid into something like an Easysaver and you can then open another account paying whatever is the going rate at that time.

karmalady Thu 24-Nov-22 12:48:46

Annsixty, £60 for my flue sweeping plus stove check and £75 for gas stove service

I have an easy saver with shawbrook bank, looked yesterday and it is 2.3% interest, not brilliant so I opened their 120 day notice account at 3% and am in process of transferring some savings. I still need to keep some as easy access, just in case

I started online isas 3 years ago, yorks bs and they keep changing isa rates so I keep opening new isas with them and transfer the older isa. What a faff. Latest one is 4.4% (tax free)

Nannan2 Thu 24-Nov-22 12:59:38

When i moved from housing association house to private renting in august i added home emergency services to my contents insurance- at an added cost of only £22.50- i figured it may come in handy in winter as landlord seems a bit stingy over getting jobs done- (he had had a new toilet put in though on advice of his usual plumber but had modified pipes due to victorian house) but this week toilet blocked and when my luigi plunger failed (usually so good!) I rang the home emergency line- and after paying a £25 excess and a bit of confusion over who they were sending(!) had it sorted by next morning in 2 minutes- Dynorod man even told me which rods/plunger set to get if wanted to do myself in future (£22) & where to buy them! (B&Q, Amazon, plumbers merchants etc) So as i always say to family- get the insurance!! Best money i ever spent.They would have sent same day if insurance werent confused over who was doing the job!)-and any extra costs would have been covered.

Nannan2 Thu 24-Nov-22 13:04:51

The home emergency i have is with my esure contents cover- and they also use the British Gas workers- they were going to send them late at night (as other local plumber hadnt come in afternoon- was a sunday!) but in end i said im going to bed so Dynorod was sent next morning.

Nannan2 Thu 24-Nov-22 13:11:11

You've got the right idea jocork! Always opt for insurance if you can.The lady on phone said even if its just the loo if we had needed to they would have put us up in alternative accomodation as well if they hadnt mended as quick as its our only toilet here.

Nannan2 Thu 24-Nov-22 13:14:32

Best to look on a local tradesmens lists as well if youve not got insurance or its decorating, chimney sweeping etc.They usually charge less than checkatrade etc.

Coco51 Thu 24-Nov-22 13:41:46

My soakaway clogged in the summer - that cost over £4000 to replace. Belts have had to be tightened!

Franbern Thu 24-Nov-22 14:05:19

Grannyseawood51 I will attest how expensive lifts in mult-occupied blocks of flats are to maintain.

This year alone we have paid out not far short of tn grand to keep our lift working. This is of great importance with a block of flats that has seven levels. I am fortunate, living on first floor, that I rarely use if. Obviously, any upkeep of any public facility in the flats the cost is shared between all of us - not on the amount of time we use something.

We (the Maintenance Company Committee) will need to propose an increase of something in the region of £200 per flat next year to cover these costs and also all other maintenance costs - all of which have risen sharply in the past year.

As we run our own voluntary maintenance company from people living here, we do not have to worry about paying salaries to this or money to shareholders. This does help to keep our Maintentance charge down below many other similar blocks of flats.

Franbern Thu 24-Nov-22 14:05:43

ten grand (£10,000)

HannahLoisLuke Thu 24-Nov-22 14:20:05

I had a similar trickle in my downstairs loo a couple of years ago. It was no more than a faint hiss but the plumber put the light on and told me to look in the bowl. There was an almost imperceptible shimmer on the surface of the water. He changed the whole syphon assembly at a cost of £90 and my subsequent water bill (metered) dropped by £5 a month.

Scottiebear Thu 24-Nov-22 15:09:21

Think we all need a little rainy day money. But I know its easier said than done for many people. Couple of months ago our emersion broke. We had to replace the system. Not cheap. We were fortunate we had the money. There always seems to be some unexpected expense.

Poppyred Thu 24-Nov-22 15:48:48

Just a heads up to all those (including me) who pay a monthly fee for boiler cover. We had our yearly “service” in August and our boiler stopped working the next day.

Had to pay £50 call out and the engineer told us that the annual service isn’t really a service just a quick check to make sure there’s nothing dangerous going on! 😡😡 I don’t know if all companies work like this. We are with SSE. We shan’t be renewing with them.

rjack Thu 24-Nov-22 17:05:36

Waiting for glaziers to come and repair a leak in roof, but they need dry weather before they can start, do not know where they are going to find dry days in all this rain.

Bijou Thu 24-Nov-22 17:35:30

For years I had an insurance with the water company and never had to call them out also I have paid house insurance for sixty years but the only time I made a claim for something to do with the roof found it wasn’t covered. Looking through the policies find that there are more things that are not covered than covered.
I am lucky that for small things like a tap washer my helps husband will do it.

4allweknow Thu 24-Nov-22 18:18:46

The cost of any qualified trades person has increased dramatically in the past couple of years. In my area there seems to be quite a number of "handyman" services. Very recently I had a downlighter dangle from its socket. I tried to put it back in myself but failed to get it to stay up. On recommendation I contacted a handyman who put the light back in socket. He told me it didn't need replaced. Charged a £10. 5 days later light down again. Thinking the light must need replaced contacted an electrician. He took a bit longer, told me what to do should it pop out again, he charged me a £5. for his fuel costs. Light has stayed up for a month, had visitors staying and bathroom well used. Just shows depends on the tradesperson what kind of job you get and what they charge. Those handyman services can be a rip off.

karmalady Thu 24-Nov-22 19:37:33

My neighbours and I each have an ariston boiler with 5 years left on the guarantee and we have an ariston specialist come to service them

I am quite handy and can fix some things myself, could also relace a thermostat, which I did in my last house. I am glad I had a new build via a small established local builder, only ever had one snagging problem

I did replace a window handle that pulled off, the window man asked if I could do it and gave me a new handle. Happy to oblige, tbh I do like doing successful small jobs. Very satisfying

I have saga house insurance plus, it seems to cover all sorts of things

Lilyflower Thu 24-Nov-22 20:14:03

This year, we had fail, in quick succession: the sink, the cooker, the tumble dryer, the dishwasher and the tumble dryer. Even with repairs’ insurance it cost a fortune.

MerylStreep Thu 24-Nov-22 20:27:13

Poppyred
That’s been a trade ^secret* 🤫 for years.

Callistemon21 Thu 24-Nov-22 21:12:50

karmalady

I found this general guide to house maintenance costs, dependent on property age

Less than 10 years 1% of home value

10 to 20 years 2% of home value

20 to 30 years 3% of home value

More than 30 years 4% of home value

That seems a pretty fair guesstimate

😲

But if you do regular maintenance, updating, should the costs increase with the age of the property?

Planned maintenance is essential.

Doodledog Thu 24-Nov-22 22:18:54

I can't see what the value of the house has to do with it, other than that there are more of things like windows to replace. A boiler, or slates on a roof, or a leaky gutter will cost the same whether the house is worth £100k or £1million, and they are the most likely annual costs.

4% seems high, too. Google tells me that the average price in the UK is £300,000, so that means £12k a year if it was built before 1992? £12k every year? That seems way over the top to me, unless it includes furniture, flooring, lighting and decoration, which wouldn't have to be done every year.