Fair enough- but this thread does say 'Europe - travel by train'
We have made the choice now to remain in Europe, partly because we can cover most of it by train. A very deliberate choice.
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SubscribeRecently we have re-discovered the joys of travelling by train.
From London to Paris and all over France, Bruges, Alsace, Eastern Germany, Switzerland, Northern Italy, Austria, Slovenia and more. Lots of new routes being opened now in Europe, and many with night trains. I don't live night trains, as I just love watching the countryside go by.
So much easier than travelling by plane, as basically town centre to town centre, rather than have to get to airports dotted all over the place with long access to and from.
And did you know that special tickets exists, from Inter-Rail and all sorts of other options. We recenty did Inter-Rail- and actually chose to pay extra for first class. Brilliant. Travel light - but access to modern trains is so much easier now, and we found people everywhere, staff or other passengers, always prepared to help. And taxis to and fro station and accomodation, or Hôtel pick up- brilliant.
Fair enough- but this thread does say 'Europe - travel by train'
We have made the choice now to remain in Europe, partly because we can cover most of it by train. A very deliberate choice.
Fleurpepper
We do too- and do both. Try to avoid flights whenever possible for ecological reasons. We are lucky we take it in turn to drive- but by train, we can both enjoy the views, read, snooze, walk about .. and no worry about parking, driving in town centres, etc.
We also go to USA fairly often, need to fly!
We do too- and do both. Try to avoid flights whenever possible for ecological reasons. We are lucky we take it in turn to drive- but by train, we can both enjoy the views, read, snooze, walk about .. and no worry about parking, driving in town centres, etc.
We've used trains a couple of times, but prefer to drive/ chunnel to France or fly somewhere and rent a car.
We love driving, especially in Germany and Italy. Lead feet
Also if you have to change stations- just take taxis if it is too much by public transport.
lightweight!
Most modern trains do not have those huge up steps either.
We take a small wheeled case each- and a medium back-pack- and that is it- and choose clothing carefully for light-eight and ease of washing/no ironing.
Joseanne
Your travels, by train, do sound amazing Fleurpepper and I look forward to the day when we can do similar, after retirement of course! I fancy trying London to Aix by train to start with.
It does make it easier if you live in London in the first place, otherwise it can be a hassle getting to St. Pancras.
Depends where you are- Direct from our small town in East Mids- so all we have to do is change trains perfect.
France is a bit of a pain, as everything goes via Paris. Wanted to go from Lyon to Bordeaux last year- almost direct line east to west- but NO. Have to take TGV to Paris, change station, and go all the way down to Bordeaux, in a huge V.
We are going to Portugal this autumn and we will fly, but use trains when in Porto, and boats. We have learnt to travel light- same as my 85 year old brother. We rent an apartment with a washing machine, and take as little as possible. As said, there is always someone around to help with luggage, if you smile (and look pathetic, lol).
You learn to travel light - and smile, and ask nicely 'could you help me please'- it works very well.
The Man in Seat 61 website is very informative and he kindly answered an email query of mine.
I went by train to Provence this summer with my family who did all the case lifting etc. And I could get onto the trains as they have a grab bar by the doors. So that is possible - I will look for companies that can send luggage ahead maybe.
The search continues!
We used to travel all over Europe for our holidays, great way to see so much on the way,
regarding mobility issues remember the high steps getting onto trains, I suppose that’s still the same. Am less nifty than I was 40 years ago but we did enjoy those trips.
Got to learn to travel light too- which was hard for me. Small wheeled case and a back pack. 1 pair of light walking shoes worn, and 1 pair of sandals.
Probably not suitable if you have severe mobility issues or can't lift, sadly. Unless you go for an option as described by MawtM.
Luckygirl3
Sounds great! - how do you do this when you can't lift your cases!!??
Some organisers of similar tours do take responsibility for all luggage transfers- you leave your case outside your hotel room door and they take it from there.
Mine didn’t and I would have gone for another company if I could not have managed - generally more expensive.
Sounds great! - how do you do this when you can't lift your cases!!??
silverlining48
Recently in Germany there was a scheme where you paid 9 e and could travel the whole country, by train.
Yes, amazing offer. But not allowed on any of the long distance fast trains.
Recently in Germany there was a scheme where you paid 9 e and could travel the whole country, by train.
That was very brave Maw as it is a relatively complicated journey with lots of changes. There are so many European destinations which only require a change in Paris or Lille.
When we did out tour with my big brother, we upgraded to 1st class due to spacing and Covid, but mainly to have Panoramic train through Austria (perpex ceiling for full view of mountains), which could not be purchased separately.
Three years ago - BP (before the pandemic) - I had a wonderful holiday by train to the Harz mountains in Germany. Eurostar to Brussels, Deutsche Bahn ICE to Wuppertal, Köln, and little (but speedy) local trains to Goslar and Wernigerode .
I upgraded on €* and the ICE trains to enjoy wider seats, complimentary coffee or meals and wine (€*) and it was brilliant.
I always make a point of upgrading on €* if travelling anywhere near mealtimes- that way we enjoyed a complimentary dinner and unlimited wine when I went to Paris for the weekend recently.
(I know the upgrade is more than the cost of a meal but it’s nice not to have to go out to dinner when one arrives.)
Sadly train travel in this country is not as comfortable, reliable and also disproportionately expensive. All the more so because companies like Avanti are currently unwilling to sell reduced advance tickets because of threatened strike action.
Mamie
There are plans in France underway to introduce slow train journeys on forgotten branch lines.
www.thelocal.fr/20220126/opinion-frances-slow-train-revolution-may-just-be-the-future-for-travel/
In that article, Le Croisic is not in Brittany (any more).
There are plans in France underway to introduce slow train journeys on forgotten branch lines.
www.thelocal.fr/20220126/opinion-frances-slow-train-revolution-may-just-be-the-future-for-travel/
Hoping to do this too DV !
Unfortunately I live in god’s own county so have to get to london first, France ? Eg. Annecy ? Switzerland ? Maybe on to Venice via Mantova or Lake Garda, hopefully friends may fly out to join us for a few days in Venice as they’ve never been.
We have been avoding flying and travelling by train since 2015.
We have been to Spain, Switzerland and Germany. We also travel by ferry, to France frequently, but also the isle of Man and recently did acruise starting and finishin in Southampton.
We had a race once across Germany and France o see who could get home quickest. Daughters and I caught flight, husband and son went by train. The difference in timings wasn't huge, and the boys arrived home far less stressed and got to see a lot more!
Enjoy Bordeaux. And the local produce. ?
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