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That’s it, I give up….

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Kate54 Sun 18-Sep-22 20:03:49

According to the ITV news this evening, during the final part of Her Majesty’s funeral tomorrow the Queen will ‘lay’ next to her husband. I’m pretty sure she won’t. Eggs? The table?
And before anyone points out that we all understand what was meant (‘lie’ by the way) I’ll issue the usual reminder - this is pedants’ corner!

aggie Sun 18-Sep-22 20:07:11

I’m with you Kate54 sets my teeth on edge !

MiniMoon Sun 18-Sep-22 20:08:21

I quite agree Kate. It is poor coming from a TV news reader. They, of all people, ought to know the difference.

Septimia Sun 18-Sep-22 20:27:19

It annoys me, too. I worked for a headteacher who would always say "Hens lay" when someone got it wrong. Consequently I made a point of not making that mistake!

I find that the writers of articles on the BCC News website frequently make grammatical errors but complaining about it is well nigh impossible. On the other hand the Kindle editors must be fed up with errors I point out to them!

Grammaretto Sun 18-Sep-22 20:37:38

Thank you Kate .
It does grate.

Joseanne Sun 18-Sep-22 20:40:26

Yes, it has been irritating me all week.

grumppa Sun 18-Sep-22 21:46:21

And I suppose she has been laying in state.

Fleurpepper Sun 18-Sep-22 21:49:19

Was going tp make a 'joke' in past tense- but not appropriate in the circumstances.

MarinaL Mon 19-Sep-22 00:21:03

Yes this annoys me too. Does nobody proofread anymore!

Witzend Mon 19-Sep-22 00:37:35

Maybe the proofreaders (if any) are equally clueless, MarinaL.
I’ve known the odd person with a degree in English who still makes the odd basic mistake, never mind e.g. not knowing the difference between disinterested and uninterested, discreet/discrete, etc.

kircubbin2000 Mon 19-Sep-22 08:32:16

Our local newsfeed is full of ' had went,I seen, they done 'etc . No proofreading.

choughdancer Mon 19-Sep-22 10:37:22

That one grates on me too, Kate54, as do the ones in Witzend's post. This sort of error seems almost to be normal now on the media. I know it is the language gradually changing and adapting as it has always done, but I still don't like it!

Tizliz Mon 19-Sep-22 12:10:15

This came up on Facebook this morning and my husband said “just like you”.

sodapop Mon 19-Sep-22 13:05:18

The ever increasing use of the word 'of' instead of have, drives me to distraction.

Kate54 Mon 19-Sep-22 13:36:44

Another battle lost sodapop I fear. However, listened to the ITV news at 10 last night and ‘lay’ had been changed to ‘rest’ so there is some hope!

sodapop Mon 19-Sep-22 15:39:39

Springs eternal Kate54 smile

ExDancer Mon 19-Sep-22 15:44:52

One that irritates me is "10 items or less" in supermarkets.

welbeck Mon 19-Sep-22 15:48:00

i don't think it is a matter of proofreading.
it is lack of knowledge and a gathering shift in the importance attached to such things.
basically, they don't care. they being anybody under about 50 years of age. including officials.
look at the use of floor for outdoor ground.
it's everywhere. education makes no difference.

rockgran Mon 19-Sep-22 16:21:28

It has become so common that I think it will soon be the accepted form. I blame pop song lyrics.
The other mistake that bothers me is ".....for you and I " instead of ".....for you and me" - again in so many pop songs!

Kalu Mon 19-Sep-22 16:28:08

Now I lay me down to sleep? Just got me wondering.

Kate54 Mon 19-Sep-22 16:28:34

Oh, no one says ‘me’ any more! Forget the rules of English grammar, ‘myself’ apparently sounds ‘better’….

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 19-Sep-22 16:30:00

Yesterday a BBC reporter referred to the people having to finishing filing past the Queen’s coffin as needing to finish ‘in time for the Queen to be cleared away’. As though she were the remnants of a meal.

welbeck Mon 19-Sep-22 16:31:34

heard this am on the commentary, re her late majesty,
her and her sister margaret used to go...;
instead of, she and her sister...
that one sounds obvious and simple to me.
similarly one hears so much of,
me and my brother went to...;
and contrary-wise one often hears,
thank you for the gifts you gave to my wife and i. !
i guess if they don't care, it doesn't matter. does it?

welbeck Mon 19-Sep-22 16:34:01

oh GSM ! i've given up with the BBC.
that is beyond the pale.
or as they'd probably say, the bucket.

rockgran Mon 19-Sep-22 17:33:27

Kalu - I think "Lay me down" is correct because you are placing your body on the bed.
I blame Bob Dylan for "Lay lady Lay". I always pictured a huge hen.